Hi, I’m a moron. I’ll admit it. I bought the new G1 Google phone from a store just off Times Square (Cellular Stop, 566 Seventh Ave between 40th and 41st Sts, 212-730-4470) and paid nearly twice the manufacturer’s suggested retail price. Fine. Selling a product above market value may be unethical but it’s not illegal. Where I really got bent over was the promise of a phony rebate and $209.94 in bogus charges, e.g., the clerks sold me features the phone already comes with (Internet access, texting capabilities, a protective case, etc.). I knew I was doomed when one surly salesperson disappeared with my BlackBerry SIM card (he was “upgrading” it for $36) and the other refused to print out an itemized receipt. It took 40 minutes to procure one, and another week to figure out that I’d been sold a bunk battery. I was enraged. But what could I do?
STEP 1: Try to solve the problem yourself
I did my homework to find out exactly what the phone came with, and called Cellular Stop to ask for a clarification on the questionable charges; they hung up on me. Three days later, I returned to the store with a friend and requested an explanation for the $209.94. The exchange escalated quickly; within minutes, six clerks encircled us, screaming and cursing and threatening to “break” our “fucking faces” if we didn’t “get the fuck out.” My friend was thrown against the wall, and one worker tried to smash my camera while another attempted to grab the receipt. (Sorry, buddy, I’d already photocopied it.) After getting booted, we called 911. Four of the six workers scattered like rats. We waited. And waited. And waited. The cops never came, so we walked to the NYPD booth in Times Square. The officers on duty expressed no surprise when we explained what happened and where, but they could only file a report for “harassment.” Quoth the sarge, “Had they broken both your legs and your nose, then maybe that’d be assault. You gotta call the Better Business Bureau, not us.” Thank you, New York’s Finest.
STEP 2: Call the city
After opening a dispute with my bank, I filed a complaint with the BBB (for this, you need the store’s licensing number, which should be posted publicly on the wall) and with the New York State Consumer Protection Board (consumer.state.ny.us). Both referred me to the Department of Consumer Affairs (nyc.gov/consumers), which is responsible for licensing electronics stores. A representative from the DOCA informed me that they’d received “numerous complaints” about Cellular Stop this year, including four that were still unresolved. My case with them is still pending.
STEP 3: Go to the top
A call placed to the customer-service division at T-Mobile confirmed that Cellular Stop is indeed an “authorized T-Mobile retailer,” which prompts the question: Why the hell are they doing business with these scumbags? The only reason I entered the store in the first place was because it had T-Mobile’s blessing, and was dressed floor to ceiling in T-Mobile paraphernalia. An agent in T-Mobile’s customer-service division was apologetic, but said there was little she could do; she did note, however, that they’d received other complaints about Cellular Stop.
Because I’m a member of the press, I contacted Peter Dobrow, a representative from T-Mobile’s media-relations team. “We need to ensure that if a customer goes into a third-party retailer, the experience is nothing less than what they’d experience in a T-Mobile store,” he says. “Your experience sickens me.” An investigation was launched within 24 hours of my call.
I also wanted to know who was behind this locally. I searched ACRIS (nyc.gov/finance), the city’s register of property records, to determine the block and lot number and landlord (Chen Lee Kwan); I then combed LexisNexis, which revealed the identities of Cellular Stop’s “chairman” or “CEO” (Avi Armout-Levy), its Marine Park, Brooklyn–based CPA, three other related company names (Cellular Stop 2, Inc.; Cellular Stop II, Inc.; and Cellular to Go, Ltd.), as well as Cellular Stop II’s eviction from a previous outpost at 160 East 48th Street.
STEP 4: Listen to what they have to say
Kwan was “out of the country” when I called, but building manager Donald Cheng said he’d heard no complaints about Cellular Stop. “We just collect the checks,” he said. “So long as they pay their rent, how they pay their rent is really none of our business.”
When I rang a number for Armout-Levy I got a man who, between long pauses, denied being Armout-Levy but confirmed the name of his accountant. When asked about Cellular Stop, he replied in broken English, “What’s a Cellular Stop? What’s this cell phone?” The CPA, meanwhile, revealed little about Armout-Levy, but said he had encouraged him to respond to me. “I don’t know what transpires with his customer base and I don’t have information on what he sells,” he said. “I’m just the accountant.”
STEP 5: Spread the word
I posted scathing reviews of Cellular Stop on Yelp, MerchantCircle and Ripoff Report, and found that I’m not alone: Ninety percent of Cellular Stop’s online reviews echo my complaints. I explained this to Jeffrey Benjamin, a consumer-protection lawyer in Forest Hills, Queens. “Sounds like theft by deception,” he says. “Car salesmen do the same thing—selling you something that’s already on the car.” He continues: “The first thing that pops to mind is class-action lawsuit.” Of course, if they declare bankruptcy, they could just reopen under another name—remember, they have four of ’em.Another fire-starting option: Contact WABC-TV’s 7 on Your Side (212-456-3146, 7online.com) and ask for an intervention. The show fields 75 to 100 phone calls a day. “Where we excel is when people have really good documentation that proves they are right and the other guy is wrong,” says producer Steve Livingstone. “That gives us the bullets to really fire away.”
STEP 6: Protest
Now I’m pissed. Thus far, my efforts have done little to help myself or other unwitting consumers. The solution: Do it up ’60s-style—just make sure you know the law. If you’re using flyers, post them on public property and don’t litter. Do not post them on the door or window of the store itself. If you plan to rally friends to help you, rest assured that city rules about public assembly are complex and arcane. NYC loves its red tape.
Protest permits, downloadable at nyc.gov, take five to seven days to process, and may be rejected for any number of reasons. “Parading without a permit” is an arrestable offense—as is using a bullhorn or loudspeaker. (For that, you need a separate sound-device permit.) Don’t bottleneck the sidewalk, and if a cop tells you to move, do it—or you could be accused of disobeying a lawful order to disperse.
Last week, before the store opened, we plastered 80 flyers on its block—and gave an additional 20 (and a ten-spot) to a coffee-cart guy, who handed them out. At 10:30am, one of the clerks turned the corner, ripped some flyers down, and then looked right and left before furiously dialing his cell phone.
STEP 7: Taste revenge
If after all that you’re still feeling powerless, resort to an immature but time-honored tactic: Screw with the store. One Monday, we arranged for 25 TONY staffers to pack into Cellular Stop, pretending to be a tour group. As they overwhelmed the clerks with stupid questions, racking up seven “MP4 players” and lighting up cigarettes, one of us, pretending to speak little English, asked to buy an iPhone. Taken into a back area of the store, he was told it’d be $600, plus an extra $100 to unlock it (“so it will work in your country”), and an extra $50 for “Internet, YouTube, the works.” Total cost: $750, or $450 more than the manufacturer’s suggested retail price. Our man presented a Visa gift card. When it was denied, the clerk refused to return it until “you bring your passport and come back.” We said that was illegal. He told us to fuck ourselves. Finally, he threw the card back and said “get the fuck out of here.” As we filed out, a clerk told one staffer to leave the sidewalk or he’d “bash your face in”; another called us “a bunch of crazy, foreign retards.” What’s wrong, buddy? Feeling like someone’s messing with you? That must totally, totally suck.
UPDATE: Within 96 hours of launching its investigation, T-Mobile concluded that Cellular Stop, indeed, did not meet its “high requirements” for third-party retailers; the company has terminated its relationship with the store.
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I WAS RIPPED OFF JUST 2WKS AGO ON 5/11, I WHEN IN TO SWITCH SVC TO TMOBILE SINCE YES I DID SEE THE TMOBILE SIGN OUT FRONT AND BECAUSE MY OFFICE IS A BLOCK AWAY. I WAS CHARGED $238 TO UNLOCK MY PHONES & ACTIVATE A BUSINESS PLAN FOR 3 LINE, I WAS TOLD MY LINE WOUL BE ACTIVATED IN 2 TO 24 HRS GOT ON A PLANE TO ATLANTA FOR A JOB AND WAS STANDED IN ATL FOR A WEEK WITH NO PHONES, AFTER DAILY NUMEROUS CALLS TO THE STORE AND RUN AROUND I GOT BACK TO NY & FOUND OUT THIS STORE IS A RIPPED OFF STORE BEWARE
"Worst shopping experience i've ever had, the manager was so mean. They charged over $730 for a 8G iphone (which the manager said $599 before), and another $150 each, saying the money would be given to Apple and will be refunded. I bought five iphones in Oct, and the 150*5=750 (+tax) never came back to my credit card."
Some of the info given is correct, but some is wrong, and will get people who follow it in trouble. For example, you cannot post signs on public property (see NYC Admin Code 10-119, "Unlawful posting"; to stick up a flyer on a public telephone pole or a lamppost can get you a fine of $75 for a first time offense.) The police sergeant was also right; the actions described were harassment, not assault, and as that is a violation, cops cannot make an arrest if it took place out of their presence
I found a great online resource that may help consumers wade through the morass of voice-prompted customer service (at least I've found it helpful, and when in doubt calmly use the words "I will be contacting my attorney"). It's called the Get Human 500 Database and can be accessed at www.gethuman.com. While I doubt using this database would be nearly as effective as on site protest, it does seem to help orient one's complaints to the appropriate, and possibly decision making party.
heh awesome story, care to join hands with me in my seemingly never ending fight against Nintendo for ripping the world off by selling the same console with a face lift and a motion detecting wiener?
i don't get why all you guys are picking on Lisa about this -- she clearly states in her first sentence "I am a Moron"; not that i believe that, but at least she admitted it up front. like YOU've never been impetuous or impulsive with your purchases... just because a person is ignorant isn't a license to take advantage of them, and then not getting a lot of support when she needed it only helps to support what they did. like, where is the Consumer Rape Kit?...
you're more than a moron. you, as tyler points out, work for time out ny, a guide for new yorkers. all of your actions revealed in this article indicate you should be fired.
I thought only tourist shopped at those overpriced elelctronics stores in Times Square....guess I was wrong...
You are a reporter, right? Did you miss the class where they talked about research? 2 minutes on t-mobile.com would have given you the answer before you went shopping, Times Square or anywhere. I am all for "shame on you" reporting, but sometimes you have to take responsibility for yourself. You, my friend, are a lost cause.
This screams "dumb consumer trying to use her reporter status rather than using her brain." Who goes to buy a phone without doing any price research? Then you took it upon yourself to use tactics like a juvenile flash mob to do what? Nothing but piss more people off -- this didn't help rectify the situation. Pay with a card so you can file a chargeback. Or don't be an ignorant consumer to start. It's stuff like this that makes people loathe the media -- bc of you, we look like vindictive idiots.
I say "burn that bitch down!!!" You should have gotten some goons from off the block. Pay them a few bucks and go in the store and crack some heads. I would have left with my money, plus extra for time and aggravation.
Yes, these are seven steps you "can" take, out of an infinite number of things you could do that would have the same effect--that is, none--towards getting a refund. The only thing you accomplished was because you were able to contact the media relations team, which isn't an option for your readers. This article would have been more valuable just reworked into a humor piece about how these guys ripped you off (why did you buy from them in the first place?) and you got back by irritating them.
Best advice other than the sage wisdom imparted by numerous consumerists is to never buy a cell phone from a third-party vendor/kiosk. You *will* be used and abused by these people as there's very little regulation imposed by the carriers. Buy direct from a company-owned store and at least you have a corporate entity to escalate to that will most likely respond favorably.
Most people would have just paid with a credit card so they could do a chargeback. This seems like a publicity-seeking stunt. Look at http://consumerist.com/5102178/reporter-pays-double-msrp-for-g1-phone-uses-flashmob-to-get-revenge to see what you should really do.
Haha... those scumbags didn't realize who they were ripping off. Way to stick it to those bastards!
Well that seems like alotta work, i prefer the molotov myself. fast efficient reliable. assures they don't rip others off in a hurry. :)
Ummm Tyler, it's a G1, not an iPhone. iPhone is exclusively AT&T, the story repeatedly mentions T-Mobile. That said, I whole heartedly agree with the general sentiment of your comment .
Good points but ....you work for a publication that advises people what to see and do in NYC and you buy an iPhone from an anonymous cell shop in Times Square?